Hi Dave,
I just sent you the following email (password deleted for this public post).

Copy of email:
Hi Dave,
I just checked and you are registered and set up with an account on:
holothink.org

Since I didn’t know what password you were automatically assigned, I changed it to a temporary password.
You can change the password once you log in for your download.
go to:
http://holothink.org/
part way down the page on the right, you will see the words “Login Status” in a bar.
That is where you put your your Username and Password. Right now, your password will be “password.”
Please change it soon.

Your username is: davide22@hotmail.co.uk
Your password is: xxxxxxxxx (deleted for security)
Log in.
Then, at the top of the page under “Holothink Lifestyle” you will see “My Purchases.”
If you hold the cursor pointer over that, a drop down menu will appear with our products listed.
If you click on Totally Tranquil, it will take you to the new download page.

Let me know if you have any trouble since this is a new system.
The best way to get help is by using our HelpDesk system:
http://holothink.helpserve.com
That service is monitored M-F 9:00Am to 5:00PM EST.

There is other information you can add to your profile if you wish.
We are starting this membership site to establish a community of like minded users who can share information and help each other.

Thanks,
Amy B.
Customer Service

Nice one. I am not saying that there is no need for anything like this. Infact i agree that these meditations are needed to increase functional use of the brain. I use some myself and find them great. I just dont agree with so many levels. I just dont see the need to go into various Theta states, just go for the lowest/highest frequency or whatever it is. Same with Delta.

I guess im saying they are great states to be able to go into but it does not need to be so expensive with so many different levels. That i really do not see the point of and think Holosync created a nice little earner using that method.

All the best

Kevin

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Actually Kevin, I just realized something here. We’re not offering a membership site that offers endless levels of the same thing and I’m not sure where that idea came from. In other words, we’re not trying to take you through 12 levels of meditation for a cool $15,000!

Instead, we’re seeking to do something more innovative and creative (and hopefully valuable/effective). It would be really easy for us to emulate Centerpointe’s approach where “If you buy the next level THEN you’ll really be a happy, healthy person . . . but wait, there’s more! We have a new level for you that will REALLY do what we promised six levels ago.”

More details are coming – but this is nothing at all like what Centerpointe is all about.

Not sure where that idea came from but more than one person has it, so it must be something we said.

All the best to you – John

John Alex Lindsay – we’ve never bought or rented a list from anyone and certainly would never consider paying for email addresses that use a hotmail account. The only way on our list is to sign-up for a demo and then to click on a confirmation email link (double opt-in) to confirm, from within your email account, that you want to be on that list.

So I guess that it’s possible someone has hacked into your hotmail account to conspire against us both, but it’s not likely.

And is it possible that you don’t know what our marketing strategy is? I’d say yes. I’d say not only is it possible, it’s highly likely you didn’t learn this in “Principles of Marketing”.

All the best to you – John

Quote
“This new concept is extremely exciting to
us and I know it will be to you too.

We can’t say right now what the new level
is, but I think you’re going to love
what we envision here.”

Umm! sounds like a marketing ploy to me!
When?
What?
And How Much?

Peace

Hello Karmoh,
All I can say is you haven’t been down *this* road before.

On the one hand, saying what that “next level” is gives you a better idea of what we’re going to offer – and on the other hand it gives anyone who wants to steal our idea a better idea of what we’re going to offer.

Mainly, we’re just warning you that something *we* are excited about is coming – and it just *might* be exciting to you too.

All the best to you – John

PS – At a certain level of enlightenment one realizes that EVERYTHING is marketing. And by my definition of marketing – marketing is a set of processes for creating, communicating and delivering value – that’s not such a bad thing.

It’s only when two people fail to agree on the value agreement – ie, I’ll trade you this for that and that seems fair to us both – that marketing becomes a “dirty thing”.

Euphoria or euphoros (greek) literally means healthy.

Personally I think your defintion of the word is quite good, we have sort of the same ideas about this. But your product outcome comes closer to enlightenment.

Let me elaborate:
The reason I chose this name is because it has great marketing value as I believe you already know. Euphoria is often compared to love, happiness: the greater states of our minds that our brains themselves create to prevent extinction. (Love or euphoria for the more intelligent beings amongst us is probably quite good for your Google rankings and there’s no shame in that )

..Unlike pushing a bunch of esoteric psycho-babble your way.. I’m sorry but do you really know all there is to know about esoteric psycho-babble? Because there is an actual proven method to succeed in achieving actual Euphoria using a form of this psycho-babble you just demeaned.

A method to get your neuro transmitters to produce the better emotionprovokers; dopamine, serotonine or noradrenaline with just a snap of your fingers.

So that’s euphoria > Your neuro transmitters that create a drug to blind your common sense with the objective to reproduce or feel very happy > and that’s healthy
Of course we do not let us be swept away that easily anymore and the drugs I described have all very different effects. Euphoria is just one of many effects. But it is theee effect when people are Taking certain drugs.

I’m creating a real HEALTHY alternative (psycho-babble) to achieve LOVE so strong it will make the emotion of happiness felt right after the birth of your first born TEN times stronger. So far this alternative combined with self-improvement works like a charm on my test subjects.

But who cares what the word really means and if you can imitate it’s purpose, the name gives the consumer a good feeling and that’s just good marketing.

I highly doubt that there are really brainwaves that stimulate a Real self induced state of Euphoria, but if you can, I stand corrected and I’m very interested in your product.

If not I am still interested in your product because brain entrainment is a whole other ball game but just as fun to watch. More interestingly, both games can be combined and create even better results as I suspect. Perhaps I will learn the art myself. I even have a more appropiate name now I think. So I thank you for your insights on the subject.

Also thanks for your pitch, I kinda liked it and you have a way with words > you would make a good politician!

All the best and good luck!

Yours truly,

Marcel

And BTW, like Bob, I too am unable to access the site as my user id and password doesn’t work. You don’t need to be registered to post a comment here!